Making dances is another full-time job. -There was worries of whether we'd get through the evening. Neither the pandemic nor age can keep legendary choreographer Twyla Tharp from her work. He loved that you could enjoy it. Im very specific and clear about what the dance movement is. The career problem was as a choreographer. Sara and Rose were the nucleus. -When 'The Catherine Wheel' began, it started with the idea that technology could offer a new look at a dancer. You discuss the feeling of that time in your creativity bookthis moment when you have hit a wall and a project is just not going the way you hoped. Well, theyre not bad. Their a capella was quite impressive. Those are very few.

Well be a bunch of broads, and well do everything we need to do. and I said, 'My name is Twyla.

We were in London, in our first world tour, in 1966. - A great big house with nothing in it He comes home, says, 'Now wait a minute' -I commissioned David Byrne to write the score. The company had some really tough times with overloads of one kind and another. You cant do that in New York now. Most recently, Stick Figure debuted the YouTube series STAY HOME WITH: YUNGBLUD, following the British rockstar as he spent a month in quarantine with his band, writing and releasing new music and connecting with fans and family from a distance. I remember running into Alvin Ailey in one of the elevators somewhere, some dance building, and Alvin just looked at me and he said, 'You're going to write a piece for Baryshnikov. We had been too embedded in the work we were doing to just let it go. And I'm sure that the classicists, if you will -- 'Oh, my God. I mean, what do we got, a shape-shifter here? -In the same way that she was driving the dancers, she was driving me, kind of pushing me to raise the level of what I had done. They've been in quarantine for centuries, for epochs, and they, too, would like to get out. There's never something that could hold Twyla back from creating or working. But soon Rose came up and then Sarah came because they didn't want to stop dancing any more than I did. And they'd get there, and she'd push them further and see if they could go further. I mean, thats one of the things that obviously is so moving about Matisse. - You don't know what I got She's my little deuce coupe You don't know what I got -When I started to work in the Joffrey, for the men it was maybe a bit challenging. - Anthony works in the grocery store Savin' his pennies for someday Mama Leone left a note on the door And she had a vision in her head about what she wanted. Now, you begin with one little step, one little beat to the front, one little step saut and a piqu arabesque. I was commissioned by Bruce Marks. Sara Rudner, whos mentioned in the film, is one of my dearest, oldest, most special people in the whole world.

Every dancers mind, body, and soul works differently. He just looked at me and said, 'Well, maybe you better go out and try trial by fire, and I said, 'Okay. I didnt suddenly finish The Fugue and go, Yeah, thats it! No.

After you directed Singin in the Rain on Broadway, in 1985, and the reviews were bad, you kind of escaped to a hotel in L.A. to regroup. -Yeah, I know it's Jewish. So I had to learn to speak. You are never going to have Cynthia Gregorys balance. But I noticed youve said that the five artists you admire most were Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Balanchine and Rembrandt, right? Dance has none of the equivalent. Let's get it on YouTube, and let's share it with people. Maria is working through dinner hours. And, ah, one, two, four, one.

And you're saying, 'Yeah, we're just the same as a bicycle or -- We're just an element in the park.'. It was in my early fifties, but it was double my weight. Since graduating from Like, it's exciting. I listened to them from first to last. It's going to be a reduction of the entire novel, less than three minutes, in which the Princess Irene is going to go into the underworld. -This is a whole new territory.

Oh, I see it. He'd seen me dance before we started to work, which I thought was important because that's what I was going to push him towards. Then when you came back to the city and you had your son, Jesse, in tow, you just lugged the baby to the studio, right? No, no, no, noforget women. -She's gonna yank you in to -- That's it, right. We're like in three totally different times zones. -You were an executive running a company, and I was cool with that. You are referring to Deuce Coupe, the piece you choreographed to the Beach Boys with the Joffrey Ballet, in 1973. If we had a void, which is how we would shoot this if we had them all in one place -- -I love the funkiness of this. I mean, for example, the banjo solo that I do starts out with hitching a ride down the street. One performance. It has no commodity. So, listen, guys, this technology will make us crazy, but you know what? And it was not a necessity to prove that it was O.K. He said, 'Okay, upstairs.'. I think he saw that piece in the park, and he was curious, and he came actually to 104 Franklin, to a rehearsal there of Sues Leg. He said, Can I come and see? I said, Yeah, yeah, whatever. -Your life is nothing but dance, one is told. You go, I think thats important. The rent on this floor was 50 bucks a month. So, Herman, let's talk about what we're doing here. I love that passage of your book where you say that you had to keep yourself from falling in love with Baryshnikov. Free shipping for many products! If I do the same phrase to sad, they'll all be sad. And there was nothing -- literally nothing -- below Canal Street but artists in these spaces, which were illegal. A piece of me was doing over here and then these guys are on the road and then these guys are coming back. In "Coins and Chaos," she gives you an easy way to restore order and peace. Is there a reason? All rights reserved. Oh, yeah, there it goes. And even in this stage of her career, in her life, she's setting the standard for where dance is evolving to. - Well, you've got to prove me wrong Hey Well, you've got to prove me wrong Hey You can't tie me down to one place There's fire in my feet Till I find my home again anywhere on the streets Take what freedom -'White Knights' was a film that was written for Baryshnikov and a wonderful tap dancer named Greg Hines. Sometimes I think my mom gave me lessons in everything that's possible in life except how to live life. The problem of getting a dancer to get exactly to the same point in their space that will read exactly the same area that the other one's coming in on so that they actually -- Not going to happen. I was working with a very serious weight trainer. It wasn't what other people needed to do. Do you know [the critic] Ken Tynan? Twyla Moves explores the life of legendary dancer, director and choreographer Twyla Tharp. All the same, hes the North Star. It doesnt move.

That was a big gulp for me. But even though you were doing your thing, I was exposed to so much. I mean, that's a lot of music. -Art kind of was the top of the podium, and then there were people. No. I just did it. In 1962 Tharp married Peter Young, a painter whom she had met at Pomona College.

Okay, guys, so here's what we're going to do. The camaraderie and the intensity of commitment and fraternity, if I may use that word for a bunch of women, was intense. An I doesnt look good on a marquee. And it was a sort of progression from austere, kind of in-silence pieces to show-biz pieces. Oy. 'Baker's Dozen,' 12 dancers onstage and one in the oven. Where can something happen? These are not new questions; these are the same old questions I started asking in 1965. Who, what, where, how? -No. How are we going to dance? In the beginning, way back in 1965, nobody offered us an opportunity to dance. Do you ever miss that period? As every artist has ever understood, who has any validity at all in the real world, humor counts, longevity counts, a determination to reach out to people counts. She has choreographed more than a hundred and thirty-five works; overseen the dancing in five films, including Hair and Amadeus; and won an Emmy Award, in 1985, for her work with Mikhail Baryshnikov, and a Tony, in 2003, for her work on the Billy Joel dance revue Movin Out. Shes received more than a dozen honorary doctorate degrees, been a Kennedy Center honoree and the recipient of a MacArthur Fellowship, written three books, and run her own dance company, Twyla Tharp Dance, which merged with the American Ballet Company in 1988. And I'm doing my homework by the glove compartment light while we're driving to San Marino, which is 120 miles round trip. Reflecting on her road to success and her quest to constantly evolve as a person and a choreographer, her stories of triumph and defeat, and how she remains deeply in love with dance. The division never made sense to me, because, as a kid, I had this diverse introduction to movements: casino, flamenco, toe tap. Southern Indiana, the community was very poor. In Twyla Now, a program of works featuring ballet stars and a youthful ensemble at New York City Center, Tharp merges the past with the present. Mom and Dad were on very different wavelengths. But it was also very exciting for me because she wanted it to be unlike anything people had seen before. Also, look, the reality, and everybody knows it, is that women will work differently as a consortium than when it is with men. It had nothing to do with being commercial or not commercial. I went downtown and found the street, but not the building. Can you do it now? I mean, I was doing commercial work on top of touring the company, and at the same time, as I'm doing, you know, this thing for John Curry. After dancing with Martha Graham Dance, Washington joined the Twyla Tharp Dance Company at age 20, in 1975. I do it to communicate.

-This seems desirable, that for some reason we should all strive to attain. Twyla Moves premieres nationwide Friday, March 26, 9 p.m. on PBS (check local listings), pbs.org/twylatharp and the PBS Video app in honor of Womens History Month. All dancers know that there is only one way out, and that is forward. Im going to go out and start to practice. And he was on the farm. 'In The Upper Room' was wildly popular, and, yes, everyone wanted it to tour.

WebHear some juicy backstage stories working with Twyla Tharp on Singing in the Rain on Broadway! Thats how you didnt die on a farm. I took ballet class with your Igor Schwezoff. -Sure, it was difficult, very difficult, I think. Jerry [Robbins] called me. We figured out where abandoned buildings were that we could get into. By the time I get done, its their idea. You dont get those natural endocrines pumping through you. All these people did what they did really, really well. I know.

And that seemed to me the perfect background. For 'In The Upper Room,' they make it possible for dancers to materialize out of thin air in front of your eyes. Well, I didnt talk, O.K.? Has it helped your career? I said, 'Well, shall I start with 'Swan Lake'?' Anybody would, having that kind of responsibility. But she was doing an allegory with the lyrics. We used to be, in the avant garde, ragged hair hanging down however, blue jeans are torn, so on and so forth. Oh, and by the way, Don is Sandy Duncans husband! -When she comes into a studio and says, 'No, you do this because of that, and because of that, you do that, and then all of this is combined, and this is the movement,' and you're like, 'Wow.'. I was carrying the baby straight up. WebBio. I will say this. The documentary also features interviews with her family, friends and closest collaborators: the dancers, choreographers, directors and musicians shes worked with and influenced throughout her life, including Joel, Byrne, Copeland, Cornejo, Khoreva and more. Do I feel like overall I've completed my mission? A pioneer of both modern dance and ballet, Tharp, her cinematic partnership with Milo Forman (, ) and her wildly successful Broadway career. And I don't -- That had never been attempted before. And could I have cut out from those three full-time jobs 10% to be spending directly with Jess? He was a huge star in Russia, and he'd just defected. I was a very unpleasant company member. [ Laughs ] -We're all trying to keep up with her is the moral of the story. [ Up-tempo music plays ] [ Indistinct speaking ] [ Horn honks ] I grew up totally exposed to music, practicing it, hearing it, loving it, living in it. Youre not going to recognize youre there if you dont have any sense of where there is. Those early pieces were kind of tribute pieces to American theatrics. The challenge here was that they were both great dancers, but obviously of totally different backgrounds. I pretty much stayed out of the way, and she ran it. Art is the only way to run away without leaving home. A Ninety-two-Year-Old Burlesque Dancers Swan Song. Oh, the women issue. What are you going to do with this guy? .

Sara is driven by a hopeless ambition to achieve the unattainable discipline and control of this computerized Catherine. His idea of a good time was breakfast at the Carlyle. [Twila] was the name of the princess of a pig-calling fair in Indiana. And Joffrey looked at it and said, 'Holy cow. If you only had one performance of any one of the great composers, you would not have that symphony, you would not. But there have been moments of time with a number of dancers that have been of great value. Its the meniscus on the inside. Thats not the bones of what the thing is. -I agree with that.

She took on the mans world, and she did it very well and kind of across the boards. Margery was a true lyric dancer. I mean, do you buy that these guys are really working together? Were having the most fun. She looked at me, and she said, "I know it. Youre in the trenches with somebody, and you have their back. And in order to get more work time, we just started working in the park. Here's arguably the greatest dancer in the world. You had two status quos going on, and neer the twain should cross, let alone really rub shoulders, which to me was ridiculous, because technique is technique. Stick Figure Entertainment in association with American Masters Pictures. As always, we end with a new cocktail! I just looked at her, and I said, Sara, things are tough. Nobody was making any money. Ive been very grateful for this Zoom format, which at least has given a shape and a dialogue to me with workers in terms of, O.K. [ Both laugh ] -He actually had just come to this country and he was displaced. Even subliminally, you dont sit back and think, Somebody else is going to do it. The next piece, 'Stride,' was done in what would now be called an alternative space, which was a rooftop in Brooklyn. A testament to Twyla's open-mindedness is that if someone like Misty Copeland is unavailable to finish choreography, she's not going to say, 'We need to typecast 'and find the exact same type of person to fulfill this. It is the community-supported home of New Yorks THIRTEEN Americas flagship PBS station WLIW21, THIRTEEN PBSKids, WLIW World and Create; NJ PBS, New Jerseys statewide public television network; Long Islands only NPR station WLIW-FM; ALL ARTS, the arts and culture media provider; and newsroom NJ Spotlight News. And then on the outside its some kind of tendon, and Im constantly trying to shift the weight load on that knee. When I began to make dances, that's what I was doing. Twyla Tharp has dedicated a major part of her life to choreography where she had creativity and commitment to dances is evident. You dont know how to work with a person other than telling them a step.

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A pioneer of both modern dance and ballet, Tharp is famously prolific, hard-working, and constantly evolving. Youd have one performance of it. We changed course to start developing a mode of engaging an audience that would pay the bills because now we had diapers to buy. I had studied music.