4 (1863) Emancipation Proclamation, General Order No. As the day wore on into evening, the usual Florida winter storms rolled in that day they came with a vengeance. Much of the information in media accounts has been altered to support the myth. Im coming to meet you anyhow., FT-28: We have just passed over a small island. Young: There has been speculation that perhaps the flight was tampered with Lundeen: We are being urged on by insane hysteria. That denial from the Justice Department, as emphatic as it was, it didnt hold up. Lost of Flight 19 Official Accident Reports. Flight 19 was a United States Navy training mission that disappeared in 1945 within the Bermuda Triangle, forming one of the central parts in the Bermuda Triangle mythology. The group The Influenza Epidemic of 1918 by Carla R. Morrisey, RN, BSN, Influenza of 1918 (Spanish Flu) and the US Navy, Philadelphia, Nurses, and the Spanish Influenza Pandemic of 1918. Air-Sea Rescue Task Unit Four at Fort Everglades (ASRTU-4) (paraphrased): Suggest another aircraft in your flight take over lead since your compasses are out. Maddow: In his first stint in Washington, Lundeen had opposed the U.S. getting involved in World War I. Influenza at the United States Naval Hospital, Washington, D.C. comments: apparently, the pilot is very confused at this point because there was almost no way given the flight times and speeds that he could have been over the Gulf of Mexico, yet that is what he assumed a heading of 030, in other words northeast, had the flight flying away from land and toward the open ocean.). Radio Reporter: Senator Burton K. Wheeler of Montana, a leader of the America First Committee, has threatened to demand a congressional investigation of the way the Justice Department has been handling the prosecution of Nazi sympathizers. And the mystery of what caused that crash, that mystery has endured. The sea was very rough., In that massive efforts with planes scouring the seas in close coordination one more plane was lost, a PBM-5 Mariner, with call sign Buno 59225. 81 (1866) Requirements of Guardians for Boy to Enlist, General Order No. 52, [USS] Joseph Hewes APA22 War Damage Report No. A radio message was intercepted from the flight at around 1600 hours, recording a conversation likely between Taylor and the pilot of In the stormy nighttime seas, without flares and not in rafts, most likely they would have died before morning. This is a moment of great political danger, I think, for these men. Painter: We walked through this cornfield and parts of bodies was strung along the cornstalks, and everything like that. They drive to the airfield for him to catch his flight. Flannery: The report is just full of unsupported exploration of possibilities that are, that they have no basis in fact, they have no basis in science, and they just say these things. Flannery: Well, from where we're standing, it's, its between us and the Short Hill mountain. Now the expos did not mention Senator Lundeen by name, but the newspaper's description of the scheme, it was spot-on when it came to describing the nature of that relationship, the nature of the activities that Lundeen was up to with that German agent. I am over land but its broken. As a, as a recovering federal prosecutor you would throw somebody out of your office if they came in and they said, This is our finding. Really? It's kind of creepy to hold, right, because you realize what that document, you know, went through. That Walter G Jeffrey, LTJG, USN 329291 volunteer ARCENEAUX, CHARLES D. ENS USNR MISSING A to act as patrol plane commander of PBM-5 59225 CONE, HARRY GRIMES LTJG USNR MISSING A Squadron Training 49, on night of 5 DEC 1945 & in so ALLEN, ROGER MURRAY ENS USNR MISSING A doing displayed sense of duty & spirit. 01-Mar-2023.

When Lundeens secretary raced to the scene of the crash that afternoon to learn the fate of her boss, one report from the time says she met a policeman at the scene of the crash who told her something strange. When she hears the news, Senator Lundeen's secretary decides shes gonna go there, to try to find him. But that supposed report from the policeman, it was not a totally incongruous detail.

Our Web Producer is Will Femia. It seems as if the leader was flying with seriously impaired judgment and was somehow lacking in normal pilotage skills, which is bizarre given that he had 2,500 hours of total flight time to his name. But the Senator did have reason to be concerned while he was on the plane that day. Flannery: The more I looked at it, the more it seemed that at least the government agency didn't ask the right questions or find out very much. Thanksgiving '22 Nov. 45, Blockade-running Between Europe and the Far East by Submarines, 1942-44, Boxer Rebellion and the US Navy, 1900-1901, Selected Documents of the Boxer Rebellion, Battle Streamer: China Relief Expedition 1900-1901, Navy Medal of Honor: Boxer Rebellion 1900, Brief History of Civilian Personnel in the US Navy Department, Brief History of Punishment by Flogging in the US Navy, Brief Summary of the Perry Expedition to Japan, 1853, Building the Navy's Bases in World War II, Building the Navy's Bases, vol. HistoricWings.com :: A Magazine for Aviators, Pilots and Adventurers, A Magazine for Aviators, Adventurers and Pilots, Published on December 5, 2012 ENGINES RECOMMENDATIONS: Added emphasis is being placed on GEN NATURE E-2 importance of proper navigation & lost plane procedure SPEC TYPE ACC (6) Lost - fuel exhaustion CO: Concur with report of board. 0h 29m. He wanted to search for the Squadron at this point, but was told not to, by NASFL officials who No explanation. comments: There was no response but additional radio communications were overheard as the flight leader, FT-28, asked the other aircraft in Flight 19 for ideas. Senator Ernest Lundeen quickly became one of the loudest and most confident voices inveighing against the U.S. joining the fight. And Senator Lundeen is at work, even though it's Labor Day Weekend. He wanted to search for the Squadron at this point, but was told not to, by NASFL officials who In the weeks after the crash, the Attorney General emphatically rejected the suggestion that Lundeen was under active investigation when he died. It was one of the final links in a disastrous chain of errors. He's due to fly that day to Pittsburgh. Appendix A: Chronology - January 1991 cont. If these directions had been heard and carried out, we are certain this flight would have returned to base safely.

They arrive at the airfield. Sound design by Tarek Fouda. Taylor was a seasoned naval aviator with some 2,500 flying hours and multiple World War II combat tours in the Pacific. We pick up the first messages to and from the lead aircraft, going by the call sign Fox Tare Two Eight (FT-28). Flannery: Mr. Painter's older brother walked into the field and he saw teeth and there was a gold tooth in there and he threw it at the ground and broke out the gold tooth and he kept it. We pick up the first messages to and from the lead aircraft, going by the call sign Fox Tare Two Eight (FT-28). Incredibly, despite achieving a reasonable radio fix, somehow that information was not relayed to Flight 19. Maddow: Thats John Flannery. 294 (1917) Identification Tags ("Dog Tags"), General Order No. Where would it have most likely gone down? The rest of the transmissions were heard by ASRTU-4. Turn on your emergency IFF gear, or do you have it on? (Ed. Naval Armed Guard Service in World War II, Naval Gun Factory (Washington Navy Yard) Facilities Data: World War II, Naval Memorial Service, Casting Flowers on the Sea in Honor of the Naval Dead, Naval Yarns by Captain Bartlett [manuscript], Navy and Defense Reform: A Short History and Reference Chronology, Navy and Marine Corps Awards Manual [Rev. 292 (1882) Establishment of the Office of Intelligence, General Order No. Violence against government targets. The board also concluded that neither the pilot nor the co-pilot were actively controlling the plane when it crashed. The biggest mistake is assuming they dropped their bombs on Hen and Chickens shoals. The communications between NAS Banana River and Training 49 were also transcribed. Senator Lundeen was 62 years old. Fort Lauderdale is 20 miles further, your first port after Miami. Her name was Margaret Carson. By morning, they probably never saw one another again. Sixty years later little more is known about what happened to them. 04:10PM -04 Simon Bolivar Int'l (Maiquetia Int'l) - CCS. Support for that movement among serving members of Congress who prove willing and able to use their share of American political power to defend the extremists, to protect themselves, to throw off the investigation. Ft. Lauderdale (paraphrased): Change radio frequency to 3000 kc, the search and rescue frequency. WebThe last transmission from Flight 19 took place at 19:04 when Lt. Cox was on air communicating with Flight 19, until their signal got weaker. We tried to confirm those reports one way or the other. While they may have hoped to survive and stay together until being rescued, the heavy seas and bad weather undoubtedly swamped their life rafts. And he managed to stand out even from his other peers who voted no like he did. So, Ernest Lundeen knew the cost of taking an unpopular stance in elected office. The reports of a possible physical altercation among the passengers on the plane, those reports would never be fully verified. The group One of the SAR aircraft reported the weather after the flight: the ceiling was approximately 800 to 1200 feet overcast, occasional showers, estimated wind, west southwest about 25 30 knots. They're both trying to figure out how much reporters have found out about what's going on. Modern pilots are taught to recognize the Error Chain end things before they proceed to an accident. ANALYSIS: NAME AND RANK OF OTHER PERSONNEL INJ 51. It might even get him run out of town on a rail again. Here he is with producer Kelsey Desiderio: Kelsey Desiderio: So, obviously we don't know exactly where the plane came down, but do we have any rough idea, in terms of where we're standing, where did it happen? Hart: You can imagine how this strikes the country, that this man who had been seen already as an outspoken anti-war figure, allegations already circulating that he might be pro-German, if not pro-Nazi, has suddenly died dramatically. Transcript Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra Episode 1: Trip 19 It started with a plane crash. Is that an argument? WebThe communications between Flight 19, Flight 74, and NAS Lauderdale were recorded and transcribed. In a plane crash that, from the very start, was a real mystery. 244 [1934] Alcoholic Liquors, General Order No. 90 (1869) Uniform Changes, General Order No. Nancy Beck Young: He was on the run for not only his political life, but his actual life. 1918 Influenza by Vice Admiral Albert Gleaves, Commander of Convoy Operations in the Atlantic, 1917-1919. Maddow: Thats historian Bradley Hart, whos studied and written about Lundeens tenure in Congress. Even before his secretary arrives. After more than a decade biding his time, building up the support and the war chest he would need to try again, Lundeen made another run for office. Maddow: This is a story of treachery, deceit and almost unfathomable actions on the part of people who are elected to defend the constitution, but who instead got themselves implicated in a plot to undermine it. Headline: "G-MEN WERE SHADOWING LATE SENATOR." He lives about 10 minutes from where the plane went down. At that point, they were probably flying east toward the open ocean and were probably about 200 miles offshore. With so many aircraft flying at once, odds were that there would be malfunctions. 83-43, BUREAU OF NAVIGATION CIRCULAR LETTER NO. 4 h 55 m UNKNOWN -UNKNOWN PREVIOUS ACCIDENT RECORD INJURIES TO PILOT Pilot was member of scheduled, routine, day MISSING A navigation flight which took off from NAS Ft. - NAME AND RANK OF OTHER PERSONNEL INJ Lauderdale, 5 DEC at 1408. 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The disappearance began the modern myth of the Bermuda Triangle. 58, Summary of War Damage to U. S. Battleships, Carriers, Cruisers and Destroyers 17 October, 1941 to 7 December, 1942, USS Birmingham CL62 War Damage Report No. Our Senior Executive Producers are Cory Gnazzo and Laura Conaway. Hart: The archival records suggests that possibly some, if not pro-Hitler, sort of pro-peacemaking with Nazi Germany type content. DAMAGE DAMAGE DESCRIPTION & REMARKS Fact finding board of investigation has been appointed AIRCRAFT A/C & ENGIN LOST AT SEA by CNAADTRA to make detailed report on & if possible ENGINES determine cause of loss of subj a/c. 230 (1877) Special Shore Service and Duty, General Order No. And it looked to her like her boss, Senator Lundeen, might have even been among the people involved in that struggle, but she couldn't be entirely sure. Great Flu Crisis at Mare Island Navy Yard. In light of the transcripts and details of the events that we know and can verify from that day, it seems as if the events of 67 years ago today in aviation history, have suffered more from sensational reporting than any actual truth in research. The PBM Mariners 13 man crew were all killed in the inflight explosion. WebAt approx 1600, radio messages THOMPSON, HOWELL O SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A that led us to believe flight was lost in vicinity of PAONESSA, GEORGE R SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A Bahama Islands. Maybe it was just bad weather. FT-28: I cannot switch frequencies. He and his secretary leave the Capitol building. At the time, the ship radioed: At 1950, observed a burst of flames, apparently an explosion, leaping flames 100 feet high and burning for ten minutes. One of the most oft-discussed and mysterious vanishings of aircraft revolve around the enigmatic Flight 19, in 1945. By Thomas Van Hare. Cunningham, US Navy Relative to events on Wake Island in December 1941, and subsequent related events, Narrative of Joshua Davis an American Citizen 1811, Narrative of the Capture, Sufferings and Escape of Capt. At this point, the ground systems got a good triangulation on FT-28s broadcasts, giving moderately precise indications of his location he was within a 100-mile radius of the latitude-longitude position of 29 degrees North, 79 degrees West. He had about 2,500 hours total time, but he was new to the command, even if he had previously been based in Miami and flown over the Florida Keys. On a sunny day 58 years ago, five Navy planes took off from their base in Florida on a routine training mission, known as Flight 19. Although often referred to as the Lost Patrol, Flight 19 was a routine training mission, Navigation Problem No. I said I gotta get out of here, I cant take anymore of this. A search and rescue plane flying at 500 feet of altitude has only a 50% chance of spotting a raft on the sea from 1 mile distant. Its called Flight 19 because it was the 19th group of training pilots that day. We were out on a navigation hop and on the second leg I thought they were going wrong, so I took over and was flying them back to the right position. A/S Rescue Unit 9 alerted all stations & everything possible was done to get flight back safely. 83 (1867) Proclamation Issued by President Johnson, General Order No. Battlecruisers in the United States and the United Kingdom, 1902-1922. FT-74 returned to Ft. Lauderdale. It was hoped that the students all had wristwatches, though this was never checked. If directions had been heard and carried out, we are certain this flight would have returned to base safely. by Brian Dunning Filed under History & Pseudohistory, Paranormal Skeptoid Podcast #417 June 3, 2014 Podcast transcript | Subscribe Listen:

Flannery: I think that the coincidence defies the probabilities, Lundeen: Reason? This is FT-74, plane or boat calling Powers please identify yourself so someone can help you. (Ed. This really was a different kind of speech. You can see it in Ernest Lundeens archives at Stanford University. Some of the passengers were locked in a struggle of some kind. On December 5th,1945 just after 2 pm, Flight 19 left Fort Lauderdales Naval Air Station. Now as he was sworn in to the Senate in the late 1930s, the U.S. was weighing getting involved in the Second World War. SPEC TYPE ACC 6 LOST - FUEL EXHAUSTION CO: Concur with report of board. 55 (1901) Decorations for Philippine Islands and Boxer Rebellion, General Order No. His presence on the flight and the strange circumstances surrounding the crash would end up revealing threats to American democracy itself.

-. But he was determined. Did people lose their seat? Our Associate Producer is Janmaris Perez. comments: this meant that he wanted to stay on the same frequency with the rest of his flight. Steven J. Ross: They dont call themselves right-wing fanatics. We seem to be bereft of reason. WebThe communications between Flight 19, Flight 74, and NAS Lauderdale were recorded and transcribed. In this case, the aircraft type used, a PBM Mariner, apparently suffered a destructive fuel system explosion. The planes held so many gallons of fuel flying at a certain airspeed would have established a baseline for calculating. comments: this was backwards from the direction they should have been flying and put them heading further out into the open ocean how the flight leader could have thought he was over the Gulf of Mexico, west of Florida remains a mystery to this day. Alabama by U.S.S. He doesnt appear to be sick, though. The story of Flight 19 is a terrible one, to be sure, which resulted in the deaths of many men. It was in perfect repair, it had passed all its checks. There is no plaque, there is no marker designating it as the site of a deadly plane crash. That allows us to make our own judgment about what might have happened. [CinCPOA Bulletin 93-45, 1945], The Diary of Michael Shiner Relating to the History of the Washington Navy Yard 1813-1869, Digest Catalogue of Laws and Joint Resolutions: The Navy and the World War, Master Chief Boatswain's Mate Carl Maxie Brashear, USN (Ret. 128 (1903) Establishment of Naval Districts, General Order No.